{"id":50675,"date":"2020-07-22T11:05:00","date_gmt":"2020-07-22T11:05:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/icrowdnewswire.com\/?p=2665492"},"modified":"2020-07-22T11:05:00","modified_gmt":"2020-07-22T11:05:00","slug":"amd-ryzen-4000-desktop-apus-will-be-here-in-q3-2020","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/ipsnews.net\/business\/2020\/07\/22\/amd-ryzen-4000-desktop-apus-will-be-here-in-q3-2020\/","title":{"rendered":"AMD Ryzen 4000 desktop APUs will be here in Q3 2020"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"233\" height=\"24\" src=\"https:\/\/icrowdnewswire.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/4001-logo.png\" class=\"webfeedsFeaturedVisual wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" style=\"display: block; margin-bottom: 5px; clear:both;max-width: 100%;\" link_thumbnail=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<h2>We&#8217;re not getting any new Ryzen 9 models&mdash;but 3, 5, and 7 get integrated GPUs.<\/h2>\n<section class=\"post-meta\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.arstechnica.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/ryzen-4000-chip-shot-800x450.png\" alt=\"Ryzen 4000 desktop CPUs are here&mdash;but they don&#039;t look like the follow-up breakthrough many readers have been hoping for.\" width=\"699\" height=\"393\" \/><\/section>\n<section class=\"post-meta\">\n<p>This morning, AMD&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/ir.amd.com\/news-releases\/news-release-details\/amd-ryzen-4000-series-desktop-processors-amd-radeon-graphics-set\">announced<\/a>&nbsp;the next big thing for its Ryzen desktop CPU line&mdash;the Ryzen 4000 series, slated to arrive in Q3 2020.<\/p>\n<p>Those of you who have been waiting breathlessly for Zen 3 architecture will need to keep waiting&mdash;Ryzen 4000 desktop CPUs are still built on 7nm, Zen 2 architecture. There also don&#8217;t appear to be any performance recordbreakers in Ryzen 4000&#8217;s desktop lineup: the highest-end SKU announced is the 65W 8 core \/ 16 thread Ryzen 7 Pro 4750G.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, AMD is taking solid aim at rival Intel&#8217;s chokehold on the office PC market. Every single one of the 18 new processor SKUs announced features integrated Radeon graphics&mdash;and nine of the 18 are &#8220;GE&#8221; suffix CPUs, meaning only 35W TDP. Both of these features are highly desirable in either home-office or business environments&mdash;Radeon integrated graphics are good enough for anything short of high-end content creation or gaming, and lower TDP means lower power bills and lower cooling bills as well in hotter climates.<\/p>\n<h2>Desktop Ryzen 4000 Architecture and performance<\/h2>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.arstechnica.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/ryzen-4000-g-series-overview-slide.png\" width=\"695\" height=\"378\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.arstechnica.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/ryzen-7-4700G-generational-performance-slide-150x150.png\" alt=\"Comparing Ryzen 7 4700G to Ryzen 5 3400G to get &quot;+152%&quot; performance is pretty shady.\" \/>&nbsp;<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.arstechnica.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/ryzen-4000G-leadership-performance-slide-150x150.png\" alt=\"The overall &quot;leadership performance&quot; slide strikes us as sketchy, too. Why are we basing performance for all segments on a Core i3-9100?\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The new Ryzen 4000 G-series APUs will continue to use the AM4 socket and are based on 7nm Zen2 architecture just like the earlier Ryzen 3000 CPUs. They&#8217;re essentially Ryzen Mobile 4000 APUs writ large, upscaled into desktop-class frequency, power, and thermal budgets.<\/p>\n<p>In at least one way, the new series is a step&nbsp;<em>backward<\/em>&nbsp;from Ryzen 3000: the 4000 G-series only offers PCI express 3.0, not 4.0. Each chip offers eight PCIe 3.0 lanes for expansion cards&mdash;we don&#8217;t know yet whether there will be additional PCIe lanes for NVMe devices. This isn&#8217;t likely to be a problem for Ryzen 4000 G-series customers&mdash;these CPUs are all designed to be used with integrated graphics, and none of them outperforms the higher-end Ryzen 3000 desktop CPUs in the first place.<\/p>\n<p>When it comes to estimating what 4000 G-series&#8217; performance will look like, AMD offered us much less concrete data than we&#8217;ve become accustomed to. The company wasn&#8217;t shy about telling us that G series is faster than competing Intel vPro CPUs, and by how much&mdash;but AMD is remarkably cagey about comparisons to earlier Ryzen CPUs. Slides claim &#8220;over 2.5x more performance than last gen&#8221;&mdash;but those numbers are obtained by comparing Ryzen 7 4700G to Ryzen 5 3450G, not to Ryzen 7 3700X.<\/p>\n<p>If we want to get a realistic comparison to Ryzen 3000 desktop CPUs, we&#8217;re left to do a little donkey work and hope the numbers line up. AMD&#8217;s slide claims &#8220;+152%&#8221; Cinebench R20 multi-threaded results when comparing Ryzen 7 4700G to Ryzen 5 3450G&mdash;this isn&#8217;t very useful by itself, but it gives us something to go on.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cgdirector.com\/cinebench-r20-scores-updated-results\/\">CGIdirector<\/a>&nbsp;shows Ryzen 5 3450G attaining an R20 multi-threaded score of 1,995. If we add 152 percent to that, we come up with a score of 5,027. This guesstimated raw score comes out to a measly 3.5 percent improvement over Ryzen 7 3700X&mdash;and a dead heat with Ryzen 7 3800X.<\/p>\n<p>Running the numbers this way might be a bit sloppy&mdash;but it seems to thoroughly answer the question &#8220;Why is AMD comparing Ryzen 7 4000 to Ryzen 5 3000?&#8221;<\/p>\n<h2>Ryzen 4000 APU models<\/h2>\n<figure class=\"image shortcode-img center large\"><a class=\"enlarge\" href=\"https:\/\/cdn.arstechnica.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/AMD-Memory-Guard.png\" data-height=\"620\" data-width=\"1133\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.arstechnica.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/AMD-Memory-Guard-640x350.png\" alt=\"AMD Memory Guard&mdash;full RAM encryption&mdash;is the main selling point for the Pro variant of Ryzen 4000 G-series processors.\" width=\"640\" height=\"350\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"caption\">\n<div class=\"caption-text\"><a class=\"enlarge-link\" href=\"https:\/\/cdn.arstechnica.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/AMD-Memory-Guard.png\" data-height=\"620\" data-width=\"1133\">Enlarge<\/a>&nbsp;<span class=\"sep\">\/<\/span>&nbsp;AMD Memory Guard&mdash;full RAM encryption&mdash;is the main selling point for the Pro variant of Ryzen 4000 G-series processors.<\/div>\n<div class=\"caption-credit\">AMD<\/div>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Eighteen different SKUs were announced today&mdash;but there are really only five new base models. Four of them have both G and GE (power efficient) models, and all of them have both Pro and non-Pro models&mdash;the difference being that Pro models explicitly support AMD Memory Guard and AMD Secure Processor technologies, and non-Pro models do not.<\/p>\n<table align=\"center\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Base Model<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Cores\/Threads<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>TDP (G model)<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>TDP (GE model)<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Boost\/Base Frequency (G model)<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Boost\/Base Frequency (GE model)<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>L2+L3 cache<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Ryzen 7 4700 \/ 4700 Pro<\/td>\n<td>8C \/ 16T<\/td>\n<td>65W<\/td>\n<td>35W<\/td>\n<td>Up to 4.4GHz \/ 3.6GHz<\/td>\n<td>Up to 4.3GHz \/ 3.1GHz<\/td>\n<td>12MiB<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Ryzen 5 4600 \/ 4600 Pro<\/td>\n<td>6C \/ 12T<\/td>\n<td>65W<\/td>\n<td>35W<\/td>\n<td>Up to 4.2GHz \/ 3.7GHz<\/td>\n<td>Up to 4.2GHz \/ 3.3GHz<\/td>\n<td>11MiB<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Ryzen 3 4300 \/ 4300 Pro<\/td>\n<td>4C \/ 8T<\/td>\n<td>65W<\/td>\n<td>35W<\/td>\n<td>Up to 4.0GHz \/ 3.8GHz<\/td>\n<td>Up to 4.0GHz \/ 3.5GHz<\/td>\n<td>6MiB<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Athlon Gold 3150 \/ 3150 Pro<\/td>\n<td>4C \/ 4T<\/td>\n<td>65W<\/td>\n<td>35W<\/td>\n<td>3.9GHz<\/td>\n<td>3.8GHz<\/td>\n<td>6MiB<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Athlon Silver 3050 \/ 3050 Pro<\/td>\n<td>2C \/ 4T<\/td>\n<td><strong>n\/a<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>35W<\/td>\n<td><strong>n\/a<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>3.4GHz<\/td>\n<td>5MiB<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<h2>Availability<\/h2>\n<p>If you&#8217;re dreaming of building your own inexpensive-but-awesome Ryzen 4000 system with integrated Radeon graphics, we&#8217;ve got bad news for you&mdash;this entire series of processors will be available to OEMs and System Integrators (read: OEMs, but a little smaller than Lenovo or HP) only. The Pro versions of these Ryzen 4000 desktop APUs are available to OEMs and SIs today, and systems featuring both Pro and non-Pro Ryzen 4000 APUs are expected to be available from larger OEMs in the fall.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"tags\">\n<div><strong>See Campaign: <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/ir.amd.com\/news-releases\/news-release-details\/amd-ryzen-4000-series-desktop-processors-amd-radeon-graphics-set\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/ir.amd.com\/news-releases\/news-release-details\/amd-ryzen-4000-series-desktop-processors-amd-radeon-graphics-set<\/a><br \/><b>Contact Information:<\/b><br \/>JIM SALTER<\/p>\n<p><b>Tags:<\/b><br \/><a href=\"\"><\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/icrowdnewswire.com\/category\/news-category\/wire\/\" rel=\"category tag\">Wire<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/icrowdnewswire.com\/category\/global-regions\/united-states\/\" rel=\"category tag\">United States<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/icrowdnewswire.com\/category\/language\/english\/\" rel=\"category tag\">English<\/a><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\" alt=\"image\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" class=\"cwdfimg\" \/><\/div>\n<div>\n<h3>Contact Information:<\/h3>\n<p>JIM SALTER<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"233\" height=\"24\" src=\"https:\/\/icrowdnewswire.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/4001-logo.png\" alt=\"\">We&rsquo;re not getting any new Ryzen 9 models&mdash;but 3, 5, and 7 get integrated GPUs. This morning, AMD&nbsp;announced&nbsp;the next big thing for its Ryzen desktop CPU line&mdash;the Ryzen 4000 series, slated to arrive in Q3 2020. Those of you who have been waiting breathlessly for Zen 3 architecture will need to keep waiting&mdash;Ryzen 4000 desktop &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/icrowdnewswire.com\/2020\/07\/22\/amd-ryzen-4000-desktop-apus-will-be-here-in-q3-2020\/\">Continue reading <span>AMD Ryzen 4000 desktop APUs will be here in Q3 2020<\/span><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/ipsnews.net\/business\/2020\/07\/22\/amd-ryzen-4000-desktop-apus-will-be-here-in-q3-2020\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue Reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":47,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,22,54],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-50675","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-english","category-united-states","category-wire"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v24.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>AMD Ryzen 4000 desktop APUs will be here in Q3 2020 - Business<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"http:\/\/ipsnews.net\/business\/2020\/07\/22\/amd-ryzen-4000-desktop-apus-will-be-here-in-q3-2020\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"AMD Ryzen 4000 desktop APUs will be here in Q3 2020 - Business\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"We&rsquo;re not getting any new Ryzen 9 models&mdash;but 3, 5, and 7 get integrated GPUs. 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